Pic, I too don't mess with these 2 stocks much anymore and after having averaged down during the decline, I'll see what happens if there is truly some personnel changes in the works. There are some good folks on this Board, but there are also some real meatheads and we all know who they are, but I doubt that they do - LOL!!! You're a good man and I have enjoyed getting to know you over the past few years. Sorry to hear about your troubles, but I know you're doing your very best to help your dear wife and make things right with your family and friends with regard to these 2 stocks. I am also trying to do the same as opposed to being concerned with the comments of a few nonsensical posters and the whimsical nature of a couple of scammy penny stocks. Warm regards, Khaki