will you still have your shares here, or will you have missed it by buying into the negative retoric and sell to early. Chase the green grass on the other side of the fence, while the manipulators here buy your cheap shares according to their plan. If you did your DD, and believe the credible posters here, then try holding on till the end of Jan/08. If there is a problem with SP then, go to plan B. For some, this is a retirement investment, their so confident in it. All the best. There are no quarantees; but some are better than others!