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Message: Re: "Gold is not money" ........
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Jan 24, 2012 10:03AM

Well........ not in America.

http://www.debka.com/article/21673/

Let's see how the main stream media handles this.

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I thought I'd fool around with some numbers to see if that Debka article makes any sense.
Here are the figures I used from various reliable sources.
For simplicity's sake, I rounded off brent and gold prices.
1. Indian oil consumption = 3.1 M bbl/day
2. annual Iranian oil exports to India = $9.6B
3. annual Indian gold production = 3 metric tons
4. annual Indian gold imports = 960 metric tons (2010)
5. current brent crude = $110
6. gold @ 1600/oz = $51,440,000/ metric ton
So, @ 3.1M bbl/day, India spends $341M/day on oil. Right away you can see that annual domestic gold production would only pay for 2 days worth of oil. The rest would have to be paid with imported gold. Now, if India paid for all of its oil in gold, she'd need 2,420 metric tons per year. Assuming some oil is produced domestically, and some is paid in dollars, there's still quite a gap between 960 tons and 2,420. The situation is even worse when you consider that around half the gold imported goes to private hands in the form of jewelry and isn't available for trade purposes. The implication here is that should India have to buy all its oil with gold, it would need to at least double it's present gold imports.
So what if they only pay in gold for Iranian oil, as per the article? Well, $9.6B annually = 187 tons of gold. It could be done I suppose, but what happens when everyone starts demanding gold for oil, bearing in mind that India is the world's no.1 gold importer, and that worldwide gold production is declining? Clearly the price of gold would rise, but then so would the price of oil. Being the world's no.1 gold producer, China would likely manage, but what about the rest of the world? Where is their gold going to come from, bearing in mind that demand for oil (and thus gold) is growing in both India and China?
There's another problem, though. Can the oil producing nations consume enough Chinese and Indian goods for trade to balance? In other words, does the gold flow in both directions, or does it accumulate in mostly OPEC hands, and if so, what does that imply for international trade and finance? Under the present dollar based system, dollar payments accumulate in OPEC hands and are basically recycled into US and European bonds, thus putting a floor under interest rates. Presumably that support will be gone if the world goes to gold settlement, or does OPEC find a way to recycle the gold, effectively transforming it into global purchasing power so nations can buy their oil?
I don't have any answers here (sorry) I'm just trying to puzzle out what it all means. I'm not even sure if gold for settling international trade can work. Maybe there isn't enough to go around, or maybe you end up with the same lopsided arrangements you have with the dollar?
Another question with no answer: why is the USA pursuing a foreign policy that puts the dollar reserve system at risk? What's in it for them?
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